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Ruler of thyroid gland
« on: April 05, 2012, 05:57:29 AM »
Hello,

Which planet rules the thyroid gland? Is it Mercury or Venus?
I have been recently diagnosed with thyroid cancer and want to see if it shows in my chart.
thanks
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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 08:12:57 AM »
Hello mb

My answer would be Venus, but that it doesn't necessarily rule specific hormonal glands, but rather the balance maintained through these glandular systems.

It might very well be involved in the Astrology relating to your illness.  (signifying the hormonal imbalance)

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 08:19:03 AM »
Venus.  Venus rules the neck as a whole.  But, there are some complicating details.  Embedded within the thyroid gland are 4 tiny parathyroid glands which regulate the balance of calcium in the body, which makes me suspect that they may have some connection to the Moon.

I have heard the postulation of Gemini ruling the thyroid, also, but I have no idea from whence it comes.

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2012, 01:26:10 PM »
Thanks James and Don. Well I do have Saturn transiting my Venus ( 23 libra) and trining my 6th ruler Jupiter (28 Gemini)

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #4 on: April 06, 2012, 02:00:38 PM »
I have a family member whose thyroid gland simply disappeared - she has Venus R/ in 12th! A friend found her thyroid has disappeared - this causes so many problems with keeping the 'balance' in many functions of the body. My thyroid was removed as it is easier to medicate up than try to get an even balance with the mal-functioning of this gland. A small part of the parathyroid was left! The thyroid would 'seem' to be ruled by Venus.

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2012, 02:30:37 PM »
Hi Everyone.

When I saw this post I was thinking about asking MB if you would mind sharing your chart.
I developed a thyroid problem way back in my 20's. Initially was over active - that couldn't be
brought under control so I was pursuaded to have radioactive iodine treatment. First time it didn't work
so both my specialist and my doctor convinced me to have a second treatment. That within 2 weeks
threw my system into reverse and I have had an underactive thyroid ever since. Which I have to take
daily thyroxine for.

So I was curious to see your chart MB.

Hi Waterbird
It was reading your post and that got me to post! I too have Venus retro in the 12th house. So it's
interesting that your family member also has that, but obviously can't be the only factor involved.

I'm told by the medical profession that thyroid problems are very common in woman but not as common in men.

Sue  :)

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2012, 02:36:03 PM »
      


I rarely offer absolutes in astrology  --a wise practice-- but when it comes to the thyroid gland (and the pancreas), I must submit that, definitively, Venus is the ruler.

Somatic and systemic rulerships can become very complicated.  I tried to iron all this out through much, much experience in my book Astrological Timing of Critical Illness and on DVD 8 of the Tyl Masterwork series (see BOOKS).

But it is not simply that a planet rules this or that, but how the sense of rulership symbolized by a specific planet marrys developmental tension patterned within inexorable aging ...THAT tells the tale.

My thesis for all this is "Accumulated Developmental Deficit."  Please look into it; you can use astrology to save lives!

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2012, 03:32:32 PM »
Actually, it was my barber who first suggested that I might have thyroid problems.  She told me that I don't have male pattern baldness.  My irregular hair loss was more consistent with an underactive thyroid--which my doctor confirmed.  So I've  been taking pills ever since.

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #8 on: April 06, 2012, 04:00:50 PM »
Thank you Noel

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2012, 04:30:23 PM »
Hi Don

Yes re irregular hair loss. I always found it strange that thyroid problems can give a thinning of the outer edges of
the eyebrows. I have that and my specialist again said that's very common. I read somewhere (can't now remember where)
that Mercury can also be associated to the thyroid gland (as well as Venus), also that hair = Mercury. I don't know how factual that is.

In my chart I have Mercury (retro) conjunct Venus (retro) both in the 12th house. Venus conjuncts my Virgo Asc. As the Asc is the
health centre, I'm wondering if there is some connection there. Mercury is quite strong in my chart. Final dispositor, makes the closest aspect
in my chart, rules the MC & Asc.

Is there any relationship between Venus & Mercury in your chart?

I can't remember exactly how old I was when I developed a thyroid condition. I think it was in my  late 20's but not sure so can't really
look at what was going on in my chart at the time.

It's also interesting that some people can develop a thyroid problem and then "grow out of it". So I'm guessing that must be chart "activity"
related and the natal chart would show if it's going to"stick" or not? If that makes sense!

I've never looked at medical astrology. So am clueless about it.
I have all of Noel's DVD's but still on DVD 1 for now.

Sue  :)


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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #10 on: April 06, 2012, 04:33:50 PM »
Thank You Noel,

I have your book and should have referred to it sooner.

I know a young woman who had Thyroid issues at a very young age when she should have been very active, and the condition wasn't diagnosed till she was a teenager. I don't have her chart unfortunately.

My Venus is afflicted so maybe that's indicative of the Thyroid mal-function.I'd always eaten foods that contained calcium but my Para Thyroid did not allow calcium to reach the bones.

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 08:07:30 AM »
Thanks everyone!!
When I saw my current Solar Return chart which had the sun, venus and mercury in the 6th house I knew I would have some health issues. And my health problems started right on my birthday month last yr September. I had various tests done like colonoscopy etc and was finally diagnosed with gastroparesis. Finally my primary docter sent me to a endocrinologist and while she was examining me she suspected goiter and sent me for ultrasound which came back with me having several nodules and on doing biopsy came out that I had papillary carcinoma. I have been asked to get a surgery done as soon as possible.
At the moment though I am doing holistic treatment like eating medicinal herbs and healing prayers etc and my family are dead against it. I will be going to endo for further questions about my cancer and then make a decision.
Inspite of the cancer, my thyroid  function is normal.
Another thing which sort of alarmed me when looking at my solar return chart was my natal 8th ruler Uranus conjunct my SR Asc and Pluto in the 10th in my SR chart. That could mean surgery too rather than death and as for pluto, it could mean change of status, well change from physical to spirit :) but I think it is showing my separation from my husband.
Lots of changes ahead!!
My DOB   September 8,  1965, 2:24am  madras, India
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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #12 on: April 07, 2012, 08:10:38 AM »
My SR chart

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #13 on: April 07, 2012, 11:55:14 AM »
Hello MB

I'm so sorry to hear you're having such a rough time.

You mentioned that it was on your birthday last year when your health problems started.
Transiting Mars was exactly conjunct your Asc (health centre) at that time. Mars can often be the timer/trigger.
I also noticed that you've had transiting Saturn hitting all of your angles for a while now (due to it's retrograde motion).
The last time will be when it stations at 22.46 Libra in June this year.

I wish you well for your future health and happiness.

Sue  :)

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Re: Ruler of thyroid gland
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 05:39:41 AM »
Thanks Sue!!